Comments on: Broadcom Switches to the Light Side: The Start of a New Era? http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/ WorksWithU is the independent guide to Ubuntu Linux Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:14:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: EluttbleW http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-7613 EluttbleW Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:56:47 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-7613 N'est pas d'accord [url=http://runfr.com/acheter-cialis]cialis 20[/url] http://runfr.com acheter 1 comprimй viagra <a href="http://runfr.com/cialis" rel="nofollow">cidlis</a> achat cialis N’est pas d’accord [url=http://runfr.com/acheter-cialis]cialis 20[/url] http://runfr.com acheter 1 comprimй viagra cidlis achat cialis

]]> By: atx http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-3139 atx Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:43:52 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-3139 Thanks Donovan, your comment helped me to choose a wireless option for a laptop I am planning to buy soon. Thanks Donovan, your comment helped me to choose a wireless option for a laptop I am planning to buy soon.

]]> By: Donovan http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2217 Donovan Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:15:07 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2217 Sorry, but to me Broadcom has a long way to go to earn my trust. I've had to fight constantly with their products because they refused to release the specs to their chipsets. I've recently ripped out the broadcom from my Aspire One and replaced it with an Intel 3945ABG. The Intel does "Just Work" under Linux. Sorry Broadcom, but until you release ALL the specifications on ALL your chips, I won't be buying anything with them in it. Sorry, but to me Broadcom has a long way to go to earn my trust. I’ve had to fight constantly with their products because they refused to release the specs to their chipsets. I’ve recently ripped out the broadcom from my Aspire One and replaced it with an Intel 3945ABG. The Intel does “Just Work” under Linux.

Sorry Broadcom, but until you release ALL the specifications on ALL your chips, I won’t be buying anything with them in it.

]]> By: Sum Yung Gai http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2037 Sum Yung Gai Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:33:38 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2037 Getting Broadcom's drivers open-sourced is not the real issue here. Rather, getting Broadcom to allow distribution of their firmwares is. Since Broadcom will now permit redistribution of their entire proprietary driver, there is no good reason not to premit redistribution of the firmwares. Remember, when you redistribute the whole driver, you *must* redistribute the firmwares if you want the wireless NIC to actually work. We *already have* a fine driver which is GPL'd, and that's the bcm43xx/b43 driver. All we need now is simply permission to redistribute the firmware. *THAT'S ALL.* If Canonical is indeed going to put Broadcom's proprietary driver into the Ubuntu repositories, then that's a disincentive for Broadcom to grant this permission. For Free Software's sake, I hope Canonical doesn't make that mistake. --SYG Getting Broadcom’s drivers open-sourced is not the real issue here. Rather, getting Broadcom to allow distribution of their firmwares is. Since Broadcom will now permit redistribution of their entire proprietary driver, there is no good reason not to premit redistribution of the firmwares. Remember, when you redistribute the whole driver, you *must* redistribute the firmwares if you want the wireless NIC to actually work.

We *already have* a fine driver which is GPL’d, and that’s the bcm43xx/b43 driver. All we need now is simply permission to redistribute the firmware. *THAT’S ALL.*

If Canonical is indeed going to put Broadcom’s proprietary driver into the Ubuntu repositories, then that’s a disincentive for Broadcom to grant this permission. For Free Software’s sake, I hope Canonical doesn’t make that mistake.

–SYG

]]> By: L http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2031 L Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:07:00 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2031 2008 WAS the year of Linux desktop(or netbook if you prefer it so). DELL , HP , ASUS, ACER & MSI sell Linux netbooks. And market share doubled to 2%.What else do we need to declare 2008 as THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP??? 2008 WAS the year of Linux desktop(or netbook if you prefer it so). DELL , HP , ASUS, ACER & MSI sell Linux netbooks. And market share doubled to 2%.What else do we need to declare 2008 as THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP???

]]> By: Chris http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2030 Chris Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:44:56 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2030 Vadim, Very interesting. I hadn't read that, but Shuttleworth may well have been hinting at the Broadcom deal--Broadcom's drivers now are closed and proprietary, but Canonical is supposed to be pushing to get them more open. Unfortunately, this whole Broadcom thing seems to be happening behind closed doors--when I asked some Ubuntu developers for comments on it, no one gave me any more than very cursory remarks, citing "contractual obligations" not to talk about it. So it's hard to know at this point what the future of these drivers is. Vadim,

Very interesting. I hadn’t read that, but Shuttleworth may well have been hinting at the Broadcom deal–Broadcom’s drivers now are closed and proprietary, but Canonical is supposed to be pushing to get them more open. Unfortunately, this whole Broadcom thing seems to be happening behind closed doors–when I asked some Ubuntu developers for comments on it, no one gave me any more than very cursory remarks, citing “contractual obligations” not to talk about it. So it’s hard to know at this point what the future of these drivers is.

]]> By: Juan Pablo Angamarca http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2029 Juan Pablo Angamarca Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:35:28 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2029 Go Intel, Go ATI, Go HP, Go Broadcom (from now). NVIDIA, what are you people waiting for? Go Intel, Go ATI, Go HP, Go Broadcom (from now). NVIDIA, what are you people waiting for?

]]> By: attspysonyou http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2028 attspysonyou Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:32:16 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2028 also all telecomm devices have mandated back doors. If the software drivers aren't right the back doors might not work. obviously the spy agencies would mandate to provide the official interfacing code to deliver a working system. beware closed systems. also all telecomm devices have mandated back doors. If the software drivers aren’t right the back doors might not work. obviously the spy agencies would mandate to provide the official interfacing code to deliver a working system. beware closed systems.

]]> By: Vadim P. http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2026 Vadim P. Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:20:05 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2026 Ahah! Broadcom. I guess that is who Mark Shuttleworth hinted amidst the Firefox EULA debate: "For example, at the moment, we're in detailed negotiations with a company that makes a lot of popular hardware to release their drivers as free software - they are currently proprietary. It would not be possible to hold those negotiations if every step of the way turned into a public discussion. And yet, engaging with that company both to make sure Ubuntu works with its hardware and also to move them towards open source drivers would seem to be precisely in keeping with our community values." Actually hmm... that just might not be Broadcom, if they're only opening up proprietary ones. Ahah! Broadcom. I guess that is who Mark Shuttleworth hinted amidst the Firefox EULA debate:

“For example, at the moment, we’re in detailed negotiations with a
company that makes a lot of popular hardware to release their drivers as
free software – they are currently proprietary. It would not be possible
to hold those negotiations if every step of the way turned into a public
discussion. And yet, engaging with that company both to make sure Ubuntu
works with its hardware and also to move them towards open source
drivers would seem to be precisely in keeping with our community values.”

Actually hmm… that just might not be Broadcom, if they’re only opening up proprietary ones.

]]> By: Sum Yung Gai http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/comment-page-1/#comment-2025 Sum Yung Gai Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:08:03 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/02/broadcom-switches-to-the-light-side-the-start-of-a-new-era/#comment-2025 There's no way I'll use Broadcom's closed drivers. I'll stick with my Ralink wireless, thanks. It "just works" out of the box without this hassle. For my one work laptop that has the Broadcom crap, I'll stick with bcm43xx. Until Broadcom starts playing nice like Ralink does, screw 'em. --SYG There’s no way I’ll use Broadcom’s closed drivers. I’ll stick with my Ralink wireless, thanks. It “just works” out of the box without this hassle. For my one work laptop that has the Broadcom crap, I’ll stick with bcm43xx.

Until Broadcom starts playing nice like Ralink does, screw ‘em.

–SYG

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