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	<title>Comments on: Apple: A Bigger Open Source Enemy Than Microsoft?</title>
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		<title>By: Ivory</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-7871</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Angela : Sure MS is awesome, if you expect your software to cost a lot, require a lot of maintenance and crash once in a while :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Angela : Sure MS is awesome, if you expect your software to cost a lot, require a lot of maintenance and crash once in a while <img src='http://www.workswithu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-7867</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft is awesome. They are great at everthing they make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is awesome. They are great at everthing they make.</p>
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		<title>By: Itzamna</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-5824</link>
		<dc:creator>Itzamna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple stole from FreeBSD and never gave anything back. I think it&#039;s a little sad how the FreeBSD site states that FreeBSD is used in &quot;tons of applications, including Mac OS/X&quot;.

Fanboys who want to defend Apple have just fallen victim to their brainwashing propaganda machine. All a capitalist entity cares about is maximizing profit - if taking away your freedoms and corrupting governments, schools and hospitals means more profit, they&#039;ll do it. 

So keep rubbing the Mac fanboys&#039; dull faces into the dirty facts, hopefully we can stop a second Microsoft from being born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple stole from FreeBSD and never gave anything back. I think it&#8217;s a little sad how the FreeBSD site states that FreeBSD is used in &#8220;tons of applications, including Mac OS/X&#8221;.</p>
<p>Fanboys who want to defend Apple have just fallen victim to their brainwashing propaganda machine. All a capitalist entity cares about is maximizing profit &#8211; if taking away your freedoms and corrupting governments, schools and hospitals means more profit, they&#8217;ll do it. </p>
<p>So keep rubbing the Mac fanboys&#8217; dull faces into the dirty facts, hopefully we can stop a second Microsoft from being born.</p>
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		<title>By: Terramel</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2200</link>
		<dc:creator>Terramel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m not lonely anymore... I&#039;m always warning people about the danger of Apple. I try to show in my blog (portuguese only, but there is a plugin to translate... You&#039;ll find it in the right sidebar) that Apple is even worst than M$. But like you said in this post. Apple criticism is a taboo even in GNU/Linux sites... My blog were in a brazilian GNU Planet agregator and some days later it was removed. I dont know why, but I think it was because of my posts against Apple... By the way, Apple fanboys from Brazil and Portugal are really getting pissed at me. We really need to make something to warn everyone about Apple. We need to join this fight! It IS necessary! Apple users and even Linux users are blind when it comes to Apple...

[]s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m not lonely anymore&#8230; I&#8217;m always warning people about the danger of Apple. I try to show in my blog (portuguese only, but there is a plugin to translate&#8230; You&#8217;ll find it in the right sidebar) that Apple is even worst than M$. But like you said in this post. Apple criticism is a taboo even in GNU/Linux sites&#8230; My blog were in a brazilian GNU Planet agregator and some days later it was removed. I dont know why, but I think it was because of my posts against Apple&#8230; By the way, Apple fanboys from Brazil and Portugal are really getting pissed at me. We really need to make something to warn everyone about Apple. We need to join this fight! It IS necessary! Apple users and even Linux users are blind when it comes to Apple&#8230;</p>
<p>[]s</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Benseler</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Benseler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never thought about it, but I totally agree with this.
It&#039;s a shame that Apple use the open-source benefits but do not contribute to the community.

Congratulations for the post. I&#039;ve linked it in a post I wrote today, inspired by yours!
http://www.chrisb.com.br/blog/apple-inimiga-da-comunidade-open-source/ (in portuguese)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never thought about it, but I totally agree with this.<br />
It&#8217;s a shame that Apple use the open-source benefits but do not contribute to the community.</p>
<p>Congratulations for the post. I&#8217;ve linked it in a post I wrote today, inspired by yours!<br />
<a href="http://www.chrisb.com.br/blog/apple-inimiga-da-comunidade-open-source/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisb.com.br/blog/apple-inimiga-da-comunidade-open-source/</a> (in portuguese)</p>
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		<title>By: Another Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in no way an Apple supporter -- don&#039;t own a single Apple product and have no intention to.  But I don&#039;t lose sleep worrying about an Apple monopoly.  It&#039;s not simply a question of their current market share; it&#039;s the fact that their total hardware/software lock-in has no hope of becoming a monopoly at this point.  Whatever is going on with the OS market, hardware has long been a commodity market and that&#039;s not about to change.  

What Apple and OS X do, particularly in the server market, is divide those who want a modern, friendly Unix-like OS from those who want a free, open-source OS.  Traditionally both camps chose Linux, but now those who have no scruples about license are starting to look at OS X instead.  

It&#039;s a shame that Apple and various Linux vendors cannot team up to present a united front against Microsoft, because there is a lot to be gained from that.  But it would involve both commercial and idealogical concessions on both sides, which I can&#039;t blame either side for refusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in no way an Apple supporter &#8212; don&#8217;t own a single Apple product and have no intention to.  But I don&#8217;t lose sleep worrying about an Apple monopoly.  It&#8217;s not simply a question of their current market share; it&#8217;s the fact that their total hardware/software lock-in has no hope of becoming a monopoly at this point.  Whatever is going on with the OS market, hardware has long been a commodity market and that&#8217;s not about to change.  </p>
<p>What Apple and OS X do, particularly in the server market, is divide those who want a modern, friendly Unix-like OS from those who want a free, open-source OS.  Traditionally both camps chose Linux, but now those who have no scruples about license are starting to look at OS X instead.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that Apple and various Linux vendors cannot team up to present a united front against Microsoft, because there is a lot to be gained from that.  But it would involve both commercial and idealogical concessions on both sides, which I can&#8217;t blame either side for refusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2186</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realized Apples&#039; trend sometime back but for not being so big like Microsoft, not many have attacked Apple. Ironically Apple needs social marking but it is killing it indirectly, more of it at http://www.nichea.info/2008/10/credit-crunch-is-hitting-bloggers-too.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realized Apples&#8217; trend sometime back but for not being so big like Microsoft, not many have attacked Apple. Ironically Apple needs social marking but it is killing it indirectly, more of it at <a href="http://www.nichea.info/2008/10/credit-crunch-is-hitting-bloggers-too.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nichea.info/2008/10/credit-crunch-is-hitting-bloggers-too.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2183</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Votre: Yes, I admit that my statements about Apple contradict the spirit of open source. But the fact is: I&#039;m very happy with the quality of Apple products (iPhone, MacBook Pro).

I think the real innovation area to watch involves iPhone (closed) vs. Google Android (open). They&#039;re basically emerging to market within 18 months or so to each other, so we&#039;ll see how quickly the open source folks and app developers can drive Android forward and either catch or surpass Apple&#039;s innovation on iPhone.

Again, I realize I&#039;m one of those guys talking out of both sides of his mouth: I love Ubuntu. I love Apple. I&#039;ll let you know if my loyalty to Apple ever fades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Votre: Yes, I admit that my statements about Apple contradict the spirit of open source. But the fact is: I&#8217;m very happy with the quality of Apple products (iPhone, MacBook Pro).</p>
<p>I think the real innovation area to watch involves iPhone (closed) vs. Google Android (open). They&#8217;re basically emerging to market within 18 months or so to each other, so we&#8217;ll see how quickly the open source folks and app developers can drive Android forward and either catch or surpass Apple&#8217;s innovation on iPhone.</p>
<p>Again, I realize I&#8217;m one of those guys talking out of both sides of his mouth: I love Ubuntu. I love Apple. I&#8217;ll let you know if my loyalty to Apple ever fades.</p>
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		<title>By: Votre</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2181</link>
		<dc:creator>Votre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Joe Panettieri comment where he says:

&quot;I’m an Apple believer — even though I’m co-founder of the Works With U site.&quot; 

and then later goes on to say:

&quot;I believe Apple represents the best of closed source — though I realize that may be an issue going forward.&quot;

is probably one of the clearest examples of what Chris Tozzi is talking about in this post. 

The constant excuses that are made for Apple&#039;s blatantly monopolistic behaviors by its fan base continue to amaze me. But I suppose anything is possible when I consider that I have (otherwise intelligent) friends that continue assert that Saddam Hussein was directly responsible for the September 11th attacks.

The power of faith is astounding. But I have to ask: is what Apple and its evangelists do in the name of the Macintosh &quot;insanely great&quot; or &quot;greatly insane&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Joe Panettieri comment where he says:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m an Apple believer — even though I’m co-founder of the Works With U site.&#8221; </p>
<p>and then later goes on to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe Apple represents the best of closed source — though I realize that may be an issue going forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>is probably one of the clearest examples of what Chris Tozzi is talking about in this post. </p>
<p>The constant excuses that are made for Apple&#8217;s blatantly monopolistic behaviors by its fan base continue to amaze me. But I suppose anything is possible when I consider that I have (otherwise intelligent) friends that continue assert that Saddam Hussein was directly responsible for the September 11th attacks.</p>
<p>The power of faith is astounding. But I have to ask: is what Apple and its evangelists do in the name of the Macintosh &#8220;insanely great&#8221; or &#8220;greatly insane&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne Van-Dunem</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2008/10/20/apple-a-bigger-open-source-enemy-than-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne Van-Dunem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a response to your article here: http://rayne-vandunem.livejournal.com/125270.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a response to your article here: <a href="http://rayne-vandunem.livejournal.com/125270.html" rel="nofollow">http://rayne-vandunem.livejournal.com/125270.html</a></p>
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