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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest gripe is that it won&#039;t seem to let you compress any images that have been put into it.  Now for the IT guy he may not care when he&#039;s making a document because he has a billion and one ways to change those photo sizes and dimensions, but it&#039;s far from easy for the average user.  At least you can tell them to make and use pdf files (which they should do anyhow).

I have two other gripes, one I saw already mentioned was about opening shared files read only... that&#039;s quite obnoxious... the other relates to not being able to set system wide default file formats (you can edit a file but it gets overwritten with updates).  It&#039;s a major hassle when your boss insists that everyone use open office and everyone saves in excel, powerpoint, and word formats for compatibility outside the office!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest gripe is that it won&#8217;t seem to let you compress any images that have been put into it.  Now for the IT guy he may not care when he&#8217;s making a document because he has a billion and one ways to change those photo sizes and dimensions, but it&#8217;s far from easy for the average user.  At least you can tell them to make and use pdf files (which they should do anyhow).</p>
<p>I have two other gripes, one I saw already mentioned was about opening shared files read only&#8230; that&#8217;s quite obnoxious&#8230; the other relates to not being able to set system wide default file formats (you can edit a file but it gets overwritten with updates).  It&#8217;s a major hassle when your boss insists that everyone use open office and everyone saves in excel, powerpoint, and word formats for compatibility outside the office!</p>
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		<title>By: Maisis</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>Maisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is a writer of the non-technical variety.  I switched her to Open Office when she bought a new laptop about 6 months ago.  The MS Office CD appears to be hosed and would not install correctly.  So I installed OOo 3.0.  I told her its not the Office you are used to but it will do everything you need and save in the formats you are used to.  By the way it took me all of 30 seconds to figure out how to setup the default file formats the first time I used it.  She has been using it for 6 months now.  She says it fine with her she does not have any issues with it and it does everything she needs it to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is a writer of the non-technical variety.  I switched her to Open Office when she bought a new laptop about 6 months ago.  The MS Office CD appears to be hosed and would not install correctly.  So I installed OOo 3.0.  I told her its not the Office you are used to but it will do everything you need and save in the formats you are used to.  By the way it took me all of 30 seconds to figure out how to setup the default file formats the first time I used it.  She has been using it for 6 months now.  She says it fine with her she does not have any issues with it and it does everything she needs it to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2554</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as previously mentioned, right-click on the bottom status bar to change languages.  Though I&#039;ve never had to; when I write in another language (Japanese, via the Skim input method), OOo picks it up automagically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as previously mentioned, right-click on the bottom status bar to change languages.  Though I&#8217;ve never had to; when I write in another language (Japanese, via the Skim input method), OOo picks it up automagically.</p>
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		<title>By: TwinReverb</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>TwinReverb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are absurd.

2) I distinctly remember when the &quot;save as the default template&quot; was standard practice on (ahem) Microsoft Word.  I don&#039;t remember anyone complaining at that point.  Much less, with a graphical environment, put a (sim)link to your own template on your desktop and double-click that when you want to write something.  It&#039;s that easy.

3) Earthly languages don&#039;t include page margins, and those aren&#039;t stipulated by what language you speak or what country you are in.  This goes along with #2: make a template and use that.  In fact, link it, then make your template read-only so you don&#039;t accidentally screw something up.  Much less, since the only time I care about margins is when I&#039;m writing something for work or something that is going to be hole-punched and put in a binder, your comment is hardly worth hearing.  But by all means: create a feature request.

4) Refresh problems sound like a concern you should open a bug report for.  Much less, I&#039;ve ran into the same problems with Microsoft Office (I&#039;m military so we have the ultra-uber-version with Everything {tm}), so this comment cannot be used to imply that OOo is inferior.

5) While that doesn&#039;t sound like a bug to me (since I don&#039;t know too many people who change languages on the fly), go fill out a feature request.  All the energy you could&#039;ve used to help others or improve the product was spent on this web post.  Much less I&#039;ve seen people have issues like this or worse with Windows, so this can&#039;t be used to imply that OOo is inferior.

6) The thesaurus sounds like (again) something you may need to bring up as a feature request or annoyance.  However, since I&#039;m military and I write stuff on Word, I can tell you that their thesaurus isn&#039;t good enough that I don&#039;t need to go online to www.reference.com more than once, so this cannot be used to imply that OOo is inferior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are absurd.</p>
<p>2) I distinctly remember when the &#8220;save as the default template&#8221; was standard practice on (ahem) Microsoft Word.  I don&#8217;t remember anyone complaining at that point.  Much less, with a graphical environment, put a (sim)link to your own template on your desktop and double-click that when you want to write something.  It&#8217;s that easy.</p>
<p>3) Earthly languages don&#8217;t include page margins, and those aren&#8217;t stipulated by what language you speak or what country you are in.  This goes along with #2: make a template and use that.  In fact, link it, then make your template read-only so you don&#8217;t accidentally screw something up.  Much less, since the only time I care about margins is when I&#8217;m writing something for work or something that is going to be hole-punched and put in a binder, your comment is hardly worth hearing.  But by all means: create a feature request.</p>
<p>4) Refresh problems sound like a concern you should open a bug report for.  Much less, I&#8217;ve ran into the same problems with Microsoft Office (I&#8217;m military so we have the ultra-uber-version with Everything {tm}), so this comment cannot be used to imply that OOo is inferior.</p>
<p>5) While that doesn&#8217;t sound like a bug to me (since I don&#8217;t know too many people who change languages on the fly), go fill out a feature request.  All the energy you could&#8217;ve used to help others or improve the product was spent on this web post.  Much less I&#8217;ve seen people have issues like this or worse with Windows, so this can&#8217;t be used to imply that OOo is inferior.</p>
<p>6) The thesaurus sounds like (again) something you may need to bring up as a feature request or annoyance.  However, since I&#8217;m military and I write stuff on Word, I can tell you that their thesaurus isn&#8217;t good enough that I don&#8217;t need to go online to <a href="http://www.reference.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.reference.com</a> more than once, so this cannot be used to imply that OOo is inferior.</p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the open source software community in general needs to do more to get the word out their are alternatives to Microsoft. Most people don&#039;t know OpenOffice.org exists until someone more technically minded tells them about it.

That&#039;s a bad position for any software distributor/developer to be in.

Word of mouth advertising is often said to be the best form of advertising. But before word of mouth can work, someone actually needs to know about your product and be using it in the first instance.

So I would say yes. Sun needs to pull it finger out and get something done to get the word out. They need to get people excited about their products. I would say it&#039;s a similar situation with openSolaris. Sun clearly want to play in the same playground as Linux and Mac OS X and Windows. But they really aren&#039;t doing anything to push their OS products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the open source software community in general needs to do more to get the word out their are alternatives to Microsoft. Most people don&#8217;t know OpenOffice.org exists until someone more technically minded tells them about it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bad position for any software distributor/developer to be in.</p>
<p>Word of mouth advertising is often said to be the best form of advertising. But before word of mouth can work, someone actually needs to know about your product and be using it in the first instance.</p>
<p>So I would say yes. Sun needs to pull it finger out and get something done to get the word out. They need to get people excited about their products. I would say it&#8217;s a similar situation with openSolaris. Sun clearly want to play in the same playground as Linux and Mac OS X and Windows. But they really aren&#8217;t doing anything to push their OS products.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed that Sun Microsystems is mentioned once in this entire comment thread. Does anyone else think Sun needs to do more -- far more -- in terms of evangelizing the commercial version of the suite, and promoting the suite to customers (especially schools and government orgs that are seeking open source options)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed that Sun Microsystems is mentioned once in this entire comment thread. Does anyone else think Sun needs to do more &#8212; far more &#8212; in terms of evangelizing the commercial version of the suite, and promoting the suite to customers (especially schools and government orgs that are seeking open source options)?</p>
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		<title>By: Daeng Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>Daeng Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use OO.o that often, but I wrote several hundred pages on 2.4 a year or two ago. I never had a problem with inserting page numbers, even without consulting documentation. You know that you want page numbers at the top or bottom of the page -- i.e. the header or footer. Inserting that in Writer is a lot more intuitive than in MS Word. I always assumed that page numbers would be a field. I just looked at &quot;Insert&quot; and immediately figured it out. I don&#039;t get why page numbers would be hard unless you&#039;re locked into some other way from some other piece of software.

Getting page numbers to skip the title page, run Roman numerals on the front matter, and print Arabic numerals on the main matter took some work for me, but I can&#039;t say that it sucked. Using page styles makes sense after you read about how to do it.

Anyway, I use Google Docs for most of my light writing these days. I&#039;ve even tried to go application-free for a month and managed it. http://theosisdead.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use OO.o that often, but I wrote several hundred pages on 2.4 a year or two ago. I never had a problem with inserting page numbers, even without consulting documentation. You know that you want page numbers at the top or bottom of the page &#8212; i.e. the header or footer. Inserting that in Writer is a lot more intuitive than in MS Word. I always assumed that page numbers would be a field. I just looked at &#8220;Insert&#8221; and immediately figured it out. I don&#8217;t get why page numbers would be hard unless you&#8217;re locked into some other way from some other piece of software.</p>
<p>Getting page numbers to skip the title page, run Roman numerals on the front matter, and print Arabic numerals on the main matter took some work for me, but I can&#8217;t say that it sucked. Using page styles makes sense after you read about how to do it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I use Google Docs for most of my light writing these days. I&#8217;ve even tried to go application-free for a month and managed it. <a href="http://theosisdead.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://theosisdead.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most annoying thing from my point of view is that OpenOffice was designed to try and imitate Microsoft Office because obviously people won&#039;t use anything other than Microsoft Office.

Developers competing in the same markets as Microsoft need to show a bigger pair of balls. If it works, it&#039;s easier to use than the competition and offers better features, at a higher quality at the right price it will catch on.

Sticking to the Microsoft model of productivity is what is holding OpenOffice.org back. It&#039;s time they broke the mould.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most annoying thing from my point of view is that OpenOffice was designed to try and imitate Microsoft Office because obviously people won&#8217;t use anything other than Microsoft Office.</p>
<p>Developers competing in the same markets as Microsoft need to show a bigger pair of balls. If it works, it&#8217;s easier to use than the competition and offers better features, at a higher quality at the right price it will catch on.</p>
<p>Sticking to the Microsoft model of productivity is what is holding OpenOffice.org back. It&#8217;s time they broke the mould.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/08/openoffice-gripes/comment-page-1/#comment-2527</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have added page numbers and had no problems. I do have a gripe, is there any way to edit an envelope after you create it? Yes I did find it strange that to create an envelope you need to left click in the bottem of the window.  
Happy New Year
Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have added page numbers and had no problems. I do have a gripe, is there any way to edit an envelope after you create it? Yes I did find it strange that to create an envelope you need to left click in the bottem of the window.<br />
Happy New Year<br />
Cliff</p>
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		<title>By: jmt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- 0.79 inches?  Who made up that number?  If it’s a common margin size outside of the United States–and those non-Americans out there will please let me know if it is...

20 mm is a nice round number that leaves the area available for text 170 mm wide. Some strange programs seem to prefer 25.4 mm. Who made up that number?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; 0.79 inches?  Who made up that number?  If it’s a common margin size outside of the United States–and those non-Americans out there will please let me know if it is&#8230;</p>
<p>20 mm is a nice round number that leaves the area available for text 170 mm wide. Some strange programs seem to prefer 25.4 mm. Who made up that number?</p>
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