Comments on: The Ubuntu 9.04 Intel Graphics Fiasco http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/ WorksWithU is the independent guide to Ubuntu Linux Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:44:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: g http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-7688 g Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:02:06 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-7688 Well, I install ubuntu on my laptop, and ran into problems with win7 file share with my desktop, and with the sound coming out of my laptop headphones (there are no muted settings in ubuntu by the way)! I look in the forums and see people commenting on it going back to 2008! They go round and round in circles and rarely solve the problem. I keep trying linux, but find myself back with MS. I guess I'll give it another year then?? Wouldn't mind paying £30 for a widely used linux-based OS that works with every laptop, on most hardware and is stable, will connect with windows shares, has a graphically appealing interface...etc. Linux would be a great OS to build on!! But what i find with linux is its still full of geek stuff, like edit such and such a file...etc. Cant just click on something to sort something out when thigns get a bit technical. Dont get me wrong, i have a leaning to IT, and am myself a bit of a computer geek. But I find linux, when you just want something to work, is a pain in the butt! IF only they could think of the end user a bit more, we would have a valid alternative to windows. Ubuntu started doing this, but they need to KEEP doing that. Well, I install ubuntu on my laptop, and ran into problems with win7 file share with my desktop, and with the sound coming out of my laptop headphones (there are no muted settings in ubuntu by the way)! I look in the forums and see people commenting on it going back to 2008! They go round and round in circles and rarely solve the problem.

I keep trying linux, but find myself back with MS. I guess I’ll give it another year then??

Wouldn’t mind paying £30 for a widely used linux-based OS that works with every laptop, on most hardware and is stable, will connect with windows shares, has a graphically appealing interface…etc. Linux would be a great OS to build on!!

But what i find with linux is its still full of geek stuff, like edit such and such a file…etc. Cant just click on something to sort something out when thigns get a bit technical.

Dont get me wrong, i have a leaning to IT, and am myself a bit of a computer geek. But I find linux, when you just want something to work, is a pain in the butt!

IF only they could think of the end user a bit more, we would have a valid alternative to windows. Ubuntu started doing this, but they need to KEEP doing that.

]]> By: init1 http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-5816 init1 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:57:33 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-5816 I'm having this same issue. Ubuntu has a LOT of regressions. It almost makes me want to go back to Debian stable. 6 months is not enough time to make a stable OS. I’m having this same issue. Ubuntu has a LOT of regressions. It almost makes me want to go back to Debian stable. 6 months is not enough time to make a stable OS.

]]> By: TL http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-5288 TL Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:24:33 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-5288 "instead, individuals who install Jaunty and find severe graphical performance problems are going to give up on Linux." so true, I almost did. A big portion of my usage is flash video. If linux can't play flash, well... so long :( “instead, individuals who install Jaunty and find severe graphical performance problems are going to give up on Linux.”

so true, I almost did. A big portion of my usage is flash video. If linux can’t play flash, well… so long :(

]]> By: schlottermann http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4080 schlottermann Wed, 27 May 2009 20:51:30 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4080 I'm still fairly new to Ubuntu (although it's my main os now). If I install 8.10, does it have the stability of 8.04? Not sure if that should be a no brainer... I’m still fairly new to Ubuntu (although it’s my main os now). If I install 8.10, does it have the stability of 8.04? Not sure if that should be a no brainer…

]]> By: Ubuntu Fans Move Quickly to Ubuntu 9.04 - My Site! http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4065 Ubuntu Fans Move Quickly to Ubuntu 9.04 - My Site! Tue, 26 May 2009 12:24:03 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4065 [...] However, Canonical’s core user base seems to have strong faith in Ubuntu’s ongoing quality — though some readers (including our own Christopher Tozzi) have had issues with video cards. [...] [...] However, Canonical’s core user base seems to have strong faith in Ubuntu’s ongoing quality — though some readers (including our own Christopher Tozzi) have had issues with video cards. [...]

]]> By: Li Tai Fang http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4029 Li Tai Fang Mon, 25 May 2009 07:34:22 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4029 Next LTS will be 10.04, a full year away. After this experience with 9.04 (the intel graphics along with Kile the LaTeX editor), I will either stick with LTS or go with Debian in the future. Next LTS will be 10.04, a full year away.
After this experience with 9.04 (the intel graphics along with Kile the LaTeX editor), I will either stick with LTS or go with Debian in the future.

]]> By: Big Dee Wow http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4026 Big Dee Wow Sun, 24 May 2009 13:09:42 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4026 I think Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 should have been labeled BETA releases. They were not ready for the general public. What should have been done was to wait 6 months for pulseaudio to stabilize and wait 6 months for Xorg Intel graphics drivers to stabilize. Let's say a potential new Linux user reads about all the hype that ubuntu generates and tries the non-LTS releases and can't watch youtube videos with 8.10 or tries 9.04 and their intel graphics hang up/freeze. Most of the reviews out there don't mention the negatives of these releases. I can see this hurting the linux cause. They could have left pulseaudio out and used the old Xorg. The new releases would have still had some updated features/software to market. Currently I have to use older versions of openoffice and gimp than I have on my wife's windows PC, because 8.04 is the only release that runs ok on my linux pcs. Unfortunately the company I work for uses windows. Only how many months to the next LTS release? I think Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04 should have been labeled BETA releases. They were not ready for the general public. What should have been done was to wait 6 months for pulseaudio to stabilize and wait 6 months for Xorg Intel graphics drivers to stabilize. Let’s say a potential new Linux user reads about all the hype that ubuntu generates and tries the non-LTS releases and can’t watch youtube videos with 8.10 or tries 9.04 and their intel graphics hang up/freeze. Most of the reviews out there don’t mention the negatives of these releases. I can see this hurting the linux cause. They could have left pulseaudio out and used the old Xorg. The new releases would have still had some updated features/software to market. Currently I have to use older versions of openoffice and gimp than I have on my wife’s windows PC, because 8.04 is the only release that runs ok on my linux pcs. Unfortunately the company I work for uses windows.
Only how many months to the next LTS release?

]]> By: Big Dee Wow http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4021 Big Dee Wow Sat, 23 May 2009 22:20:47 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4021 I tried updating my HP XE783 from 8.04 to 8.10, but the pulseaudio sound problems broke too many apps that were working in 8.04, so I reinstalled 8.04. I loaded 9.04 onto a different partition and the intel graphics problems made it unuseable for me. At least this time I can choose to boot into 8.04 at startup. I am an IT professional. I can only imagine what a new user of Linux would do when this occured to them. Is it any wonder that they run back to Microsoft to hold their hands. Does windows sound not work? Does windows graphics not work on intel graphics chipsets? Not this badly and with all the cryptic commands to roll back drivers and change kernels to try to fix them. Clearly in my experience 8.10 and 9.04 had major problems. Sound and graphics are too important to the computer experience to release to users in the half baked shape they were in. I want linux to succeed, but trumpeting releases with these major problems in them as great, won't help the linux cause but will hurt it and relegate it to the technical elite. I tried updating my HP XE783 from 8.04 to 8.10, but the pulseaudio sound problems broke too many apps that were working in 8.04, so I reinstalled 8.04. I loaded 9.04 onto a different partition and the intel graphics problems made it unuseable for me. At least this time I can choose to boot into 8.04 at startup. I am an IT professional. I can only imagine what a new user of Linux would do when this occured to them. Is it any wonder that they run back to Microsoft to hold their hands. Does windows sound not work? Does windows graphics not work on intel graphics chipsets? Not this badly and with all the cryptic commands to roll back drivers and change kernels to try to fix them. Clearly in my experience 8.10 and 9.04 had major problems. Sound and graphics are too important to the computer experience to release to users in the half baked shape they were in. I want linux to succeed, but trumpeting releases with these major problems in them as great, won’t help the linux cause but will hurt it and relegate it to the technical elite.

]]> By: Vadim P. http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4010 Vadim P. Thu, 21 May 2009 23:10:47 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4010 Oddly enough, all major distributions are time-based. Oddly enough, all major distributions are time-based.

]]> By: Yep http://www.workswithu.com/2009/05/06/the-ubuntu-904-intel-graphics-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-4006 Yep Thu, 21 May 2009 13:49:23 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=534#comment-4006 This is very clear evidence of the failure of time-based releases. That anyone can still think this is a good idea boggles my mind. This is very clear evidence of the failure of time-based releases. That anyone can still think this is a good idea boggles my mind.

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