Comments on: Is Google Stealing Ubuntu’s Thunder? http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/ WorksWithU is the independent guide to Ubuntu Linux Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:04:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jesse http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4911 Jesse Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:22:42 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4911 I don't really think google's os will be competing with Ubuntu. Honestly, the health of Ubuntu is not about how many people use it. They aren't selling it to consumers, they aren't making a profit. Its free. Ubuntu, like many other distrobutions, is about the developers who collaborate to make the software. I've been using Ubuntu for a long time now. Why would I want to switch to a google Os? Ubuntu has more to offer to me. Look at all the users who buy a netbook like the eee pc and take off the linux that comes with it and install Ubuntu. I took off the Xp that came on my netbook and put on Ubuntu, because it has more to offer to me than Xp does. No, I think that google's Os will be a good thing for open source. They may not be using X. So what. Lets see if they contibute code to improving the kernel. If they can do something like improve hardware support for wifi devices, this could be great for us all. The more people and resources we have contributing to the kernel, the better off we all are. I don’t really think google’s os will be competing with Ubuntu. Honestly, the health of Ubuntu is not about how many people use it. They aren’t selling it to consumers, they aren’t making a profit. Its free. Ubuntu, like many other distrobutions, is about the developers who collaborate to make the software. I’ve been using Ubuntu for a long time now. Why would I want to switch to a google Os? Ubuntu has more to offer to me. Look at all the users who buy a netbook like the eee pc and take off the linux that comes with it and install Ubuntu. I took off the Xp that came on my netbook and put on Ubuntu, because it has more to offer to me than Xp does.
No, I think that google’s Os will be a good thing for open source. They may not be using X. So what. Lets see if they contibute code to improving the kernel. If they can do something like improve hardware support for wifi devices, this could be great for us all. The more people and resources we have contributing to the kernel, the better off we all are.

]]> By: frere http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4812 frere Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4812 The arrival of multicore ARM-based netbooks (or plain laptops?) with powerful graphical chips (read Nvidia Tegra) could become the real launching platform for GoogleOS and desktop Linux in general. They will be super cheap and utterly useful - what else is needed for the next Eeepc-ish boom? I can't wait for what the next months will be bringing... and wonder if Google is somehow deliberately synching their OS release with the arrival of ARM machines. Just a thought. The arrival of multicore ARM-based netbooks (or plain laptops?) with powerful graphical chips (read Nvidia Tegra) could become the real launching platform for GoogleOS and desktop Linux in general. They will be super cheap and utterly useful – what else is needed for the next Eeepc-ish boom? I can’t wait for what the next months will be bringing… and wonder if Google is somehow deliberately synching their OS release with the arrival of ARM machines. Just a thought.

]]> By: yellabs http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4811 yellabs Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:43:51 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4811 Maybe Ubuntu is Google Chrome Os.... Maybe Ubuntu is Google Chrome Os….

]]> By: Mozilla et Google, quel avenir pour leur relation ? « Informatique http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4782 Mozilla et Google, quel avenir pour leur relation ? « Informatique Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:33:04 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4782 [...] ou encore une menace pour l’open source [en] et les distribution Linux dont notamment Ubuntu censée faire les frais du futur OS de Google [...] [...] ou encore une menace pour l’open source [en] et les distribution Linux dont notamment Ubuntu censée faire les frais du futur OS de Google [...]

]]> By: Mozilla et Google, quelle avenir pour leur relation ? | Philippe.Scoffoni.Net http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4781 Mozilla et Google, quelle avenir pour leur relation ? | Philippe.Scoffoni.Net Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:59:24 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4781 [...] Certains y voient le chant du cygne pour Microsoft, ou encore une menace pour l’open source [en] et les distribution Linux dont notamment Ubuntu censée faire les frais du futur OS de Google. [...] [...] Certains y voient le chant du cygne pour Microsoft, ou encore une menace pour l’open source [en] et les distribution Linux dont notamment Ubuntu censée faire les frais du futur OS de Google. [...]

]]> By: manny http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4776 manny Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:38:37 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4776 google OS will help linux in general it will steal windows users the code , patches goes back to the linux/OSS community Hardware makers develope for linux (even thou they will have special binaries packages for google OS) everything i do in ubuntu i can do it in fedora (sometimes with a bit more tinkering of couse), so i see no difference with this new google distro. they just need to workout some of linux's rough edges and get some much needed support to the community i can only see ubuntu gaining more users. Googles gets em from windows and into the linux world and from there on many will stick with chrome os or choose another distro like ubuntu. by supporting google u will be supporting linux (some without even knowing it..) fishing time google OS will help linux in general

it will steal windows users

the code , patches goes back to the linux/OSS community

Hardware makers develope for linux (even thou they will have special binaries packages for google OS)

everything i do in ubuntu i can do it in fedora (sometimes with a bit more tinkering of couse), so i see no difference with this new google distro.

they just need to workout some of linux’s rough edges and get some much needed support to the community

i can only see ubuntu gaining more users. Googles gets em from windows and into the linux world and from there on many will stick with chrome os or choose another distro like ubuntu.

by supporting google u will be supporting linux (some without even knowing it..)

fishing time

]]> By: Jef Spaleta http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4772 Jef Spaleta Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:41:37 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4772 @dude: A web browser can't negotiate wireless or vpn or 3g modem connections. A web browser can't print to your local network printer. It can't connect to your digital camera or read your memory card and import photos into picasa. All of these activities sit above the kernel but below the web browser. There is no way that Google's web browser over a kernel approach can be as simple as the initial announcement and appeal to a general consumer audience. There will be a desktop-like layer of plumbing and UI to deal with hardware. Most of that existing plumbing for linux distributions assumes that the X windowing system is available. If Google really plans to get rid of X, and replace it with something else, they'll need to re-invent several other pieces of functionality as well at least for the UI. The most interesting things about Google's announcement are the things Google hasn't said about its plans for a new windowing system. Sadly, Google tends to do large code drops instead of having an open development process leading up to product launch. If that trend continues, we probably really won't be able to gain an intimate understanding of what their windowing technology is until its shipping on devices. -jef @dude:

A web browser can’t negotiate wireless or vpn or 3g modem connections. A web browser can’t print to your local network printer. It can’t connect to your digital camera or read your memory card and import photos into picasa. All of these activities sit above the kernel but below the web browser.

There is no way that Google’s web browser over a kernel approach can be as simple as the initial announcement and appeal to a general consumer audience. There will be a desktop-like layer of plumbing and UI to deal with hardware. Most of that existing plumbing for linux distributions assumes that the X windowing system is available. If Google really plans to get rid of X, and replace it with something else, they’ll need to re-invent several other pieces of functionality as well at least for the UI. The most interesting things about Google’s announcement are the things Google hasn’t said about its plans for a new windowing system.

Sadly, Google tends to do large code drops instead of having an open development process leading up to product launch. If that trend continues, we probably really won’t be able to gain an intimate understanding of what their windowing technology is until its shipping on devices.

-jef

]]> By: dude http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4771 dude Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:08:17 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4771 You people fail to realize that this operating system is built on top of linux; all google has to provide is a shell--google chrome--on top of it and add the various google docs and etc on top. It's not that radical and it's not going to take them years. You can bet it's already done and has a couple of rough edges to smooth off and plop it's going to go on a dell netbook. Get a grip, google isn't comprised of stupid internet junkies, they are smart internet junky business people. You people fail to realize that this operating system is built on top of linux; all google has to provide is a shell–google chrome–on top of it and add the various google docs and etc on top. It’s not that radical and it’s not going to take them years. You can bet it’s already done and has a couple of rough edges to smooth off and plop it’s going to go on a dell netbook. Get a grip, google isn’t comprised of stupid internet junkies, they are smart internet junky business people.

]]> By: F. Felllini http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4746 F. Felllini Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:31:42 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4746 I remember back in the day when I was tinkering with a firefox live cd derived from knoppix that would boot straight into a browser and used minimal resources - could boot off a 64MB terribly old PIII. It was serving its later years as a public Internet terminal and eventually as a great Ubuntu samba server. You'd be surprised how many people think that laptops work like cell phones complete with Internet service plans and so on -- and people actually ask "how much do you pay to use your laptop," and what kind of plan are you on". Bait for "the man" anybody? Perhaps we should be watching Google's moves, possibly waiting in the wings for Google to take radical and controversial directions, that give the market a jolt. This could be helping us to take Linux development to new heights and new directions. As with the firefox live cd is proof that we've been here before, and perhaps you all remember there was an Ubuntu derived distro called gOS Space designed for the netbook. I don't think we should sell ourselves short. We might be fan boys but we most certainly are ahead of the game, we are risk takers and innovators. I remember back in the day when I was tinkering with a firefox live cd derived from knoppix that would boot straight into a browser and used minimal resources – could boot off a 64MB terribly old PIII. It was serving its later years as a public Internet terminal and eventually as a great Ubuntu samba server.
You’d be surprised how many people think that laptops work like cell phones complete with Internet service plans and so on — and people actually ask “how much do you pay to use your laptop,” and what kind of plan are you on”. Bait for “the man” anybody?
Perhaps we should be watching Google’s moves, possibly waiting in the wings for Google to take radical and controversial directions, that give the market a jolt. This could be helping us to take Linux development to new heights and new directions. As with the firefox live cd is proof that we’ve been here before, and perhaps you all remember there was an Ubuntu derived distro called gOS Space designed for the netbook.
I don’t think we should sell ourselves short. We might be fan boys but we most certainly are ahead of the game, we are risk takers and innovators.

]]> By: Paul St. Amant http://www.workswithu.com/2009/07/08/is-google-stealing-ubuntus-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-4728 Paul St. Amant Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:07:09 +0000 http://www.workswithu.com/?p=825#comment-4728 Hasn't it already been done: http://www.thinkgos.com This is the OS that was famously shipped with the $200 Walmart computers. It runs Google desktop and already does just about everything a netbook user would need. The only thing missing is feedback being sent directly to Google so they can serve up ads. Hasn’t it already been done: http://www.thinkgos.com
This is the OS that was famously shipped with the $200 Walmart computers. It runs Google desktop and already does just about everything a netbook user would need. The only thing missing is feedback being sent directly to Google so they can serve up ads.

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